AARO Interviews ‘UFOs and Nukes’ Witnesses

By | March 1, 2023

Aaro Interviews Ufos And Nukes Witnesses | General Paranormal

The Pentagon’s new UAP investigations group takes testimony from US
military veterans who encountered UFOs at nuclear weapons sites

Since 1973, I have interviewed 167 of those veterans regarding their
experiences. Kirkpatrick asked whether I would be able to contact the
individuals with whom I am still in touch, to learn whether they would be
willing to testify before AARO staffers. I readily agreed to do so and spent a
few days reaching out to them.

A telephone conference was subsequently arranged for January 13th, between
Kirkpatrick, two of AARO’s staffers, the Congressional investigator, and
myself. I informed the other participants that I had contacted the
veterans—mostly former/retired US Air Force personnel—and that eleven had
agreed to testify before AARO. At that point, I was asked to prioritize the
witnesses, in terms of their importance. Kirkpatrick explained that his group
had already been contacted by many other veterans who wished to
testify—regarding other types of UFO-related events—and that it would be
awhile before AARO could interview all of the eleven I had recommended.

In response, I said that while each of the vets was important, I suggested
that Kirkpatrick’s staff first contact former US Air Force ICBM launch officer
Bob Salas, who had been on duty during an incident at Malmstrom AFB, Montana,
on March 24/25, 1967, when an orange, disc-shaped UFO had briefly
hovered over the front gate at the Oscar Flight Launch Control Facility (LCF).
The underground Launch Control Center beneath the LCF controlled ten
Minuteman-1 missiles.

Seconds after one of Salas’ Security Police guards frantically called down to
the launch capsule to report the UFO to him, all ten of the ICBMs dropped
offline, one after the other. In other words, they were unlaunchable and it
took several hours to repair and retarget them. (Another of my sources, Robert
Jamison, had been a missile targeting officer at Malmstrom and had assisted in
bringing the Oscar Flight ICBMs back to full functionality. Jamison said that
he and his team received a special “UFO briefing” before leaving for the
field, instructing them what to do should another UFO appear while they

Following the incident, Salas and his missile commander, the late Col.
Frederick Meiwald, were debriefed by an Air Force Office of Special
Investigations (AFOSI) agent and required to sign national security
non-disclosure agreements that stipulated severe penalties and fines should
they violate security.

Salas kept his silence until 1996, when he
went public in an
article, co-written with researcher Jim Klotz. Years later, on September 27,
2010, Salas and I co-sponsored the UFOs and Nukes press conference in
Washington D.C., which was
live-streamed by CNN.
At that event, he and six other US Air Force veterans who I had interviewed
over the years described their involvement in nuclear weapons-related UFO incidents. Their
disclosures received extensive, worldwide media coverage.

The second former USAF officer who I recommended to AARO as a high-priority
interviewee was Dr. Bob Jacobs, who was involved in an
amazing incident at Vandenberg AFB, California, in September 1964. Jacobs had been the photographic instrumentation officer-in-charge of a telescopic camera team tasked
with filming missile test launches at the base. To achieve a side-view
perspective of events, the telescope site was actually located roughly a
hundred miles northwest of VAFB, up the California coast, on a hilltop at Big

During one such launch, on September 15th, the film crew inadvertently
captured a UFO on film, as it approached and circled the missile’s separated
dummy nuclear warhead, which was flying downrange over the Pacific Ocean.
Suddenly, the UFO—a domed-disc—directed four bright beams of light at the
warhead. Seconds after being struck by them, the warhead began tumbling and quickly
fell out of sub-orbit hundreds of miles short of its target.

The film of the astonishing incident was soon viewed by Vandenberg’s
photo-interpretation officer, Major Florenze J. Mansmann, Lieutenant Jacobs,
and two CIA officers who confiscated it and classified the incident Top
Secret. Jacobs finally revealed the event in a magazine article in 1982, after
which he received numerous anonymous death threats over the telephone.
(Skeptics, using demonstrably inaccurate information, have unsuccessfully
attempted to debunk this case. The authoritative, documented summary of it
appears in my book.)

Anyway, Jacobs testified about the incident to an AARO staffer on February 10,
2023; Salas testified about his 1967 experience at Malmstrom AFB on February

I have been lecturing about the UFO-Nukes Connection at American colleges and
universities since 1981. My opinion is that all of humankind needs know about what has been occurring at the ICBM sites, in both the US and the USSR/Russia, for decades. Those who operate the UFOs may be dropping a “heavy hint” to the nuclear powers to get rid of their nukes. If so, does any government justifiably have the right to suppress the facts indefinitely?

Since 2017, Luis Elizondo, the former director of
the Pentagon’s earlier UFO investigations group, the Advanced Aerospace Threat
Identification Program (AATIP), has repeatedly, publicly referred to UFO/UAP
activity at nuclear sites during television and newspaper interviews and
podcasts. In one, he said that his Pentagon group had
utilized UFOs and Nukes as a resource, and that I had done “a fantastic job” researching the subject.

Additionally, AATIP’s scientific consultant, Dr. Hal Puthoff, has also
confirmed in interviews a longstanding and widespread pattern of UFO activity
at nuclear sites, as has former Deputy Assistant Secretary of Defense for
Intelligence Christopher Mellon.

Moreover, the late US Senator Harry Reid, who had secretly secured funding for
AATIP, also publicly discussed the UFO-nukes link during interviews. According
to journalist George Knapp, Reid had read my book and was stunned by the
testimony of the veterans contained in it. (He no doubt had his own military
sources as well). Reid, Elizondo, Mellon and Puthoff became Disclosure
advocates in recent years, believing that the US government should be more
candid with the American public on the topic of UFOs.

Hopefully, the rest of the veterans who I recommended to AARO will be
interviewed soon and, more importantly, their testimony regarding the reality
and obvious importance of UFO incursions at nuclear weapons sites will be
brought to the attention of Congress.

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